Fresh Start Program Drug Warner Springs Ca Reviews

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Topic: Fresh Offset Warner Springs - Need to get money back  (Read 18854 times)

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Thank y'all for the info.  Nosotros are waiting to see if they offer usa a refund (we sent them a reqeust for repayment), if not, we will be hiring a lawyer.

The "leaked docs" showing the script they utilize is very helpful - it was nigh verbatim to what Abby, our Addiction Specialist told us.  She's also who told united states of america she was in no way affiliated to Narconon....all the same 2 other people at the hotline told me she is an employee of Narconon and afterward I found out that she is married to an Intake Coordinator.....lovely...if zippo else happens, we will be filing complaints againt her license...

Hi adamn,

Glad you found the scripts I posted on scribd! Glad the will help in your complaint and refund request.

Accept your attorney look over the resources link I gave you before, to run across what lawsuits and complaints have been filed on Narconon Fresh Start formerly Narconon Southern California owned facilities including their Sunshine Summit Social club.  The Northern CA complaints ie: Vista Bay are also helpful, as they all regard  CA laws only. Each state is different in their licensing reqs and what the agencies require of a facility, likewise equally consumer laws. There are multiple lawsuit complaints there nearly NN So CAl and NN Fresh start.
http://narcononreviews.net/resources/for-researchers/

If you lot private bulletin PM me Abby's full name and /or the telephone number you spoke with her or comtacted her on, I tin discover out if she has any connexion to Narconon.

I besides suggest y'all re-create that questionnaire of mine in the revious link and fill information technology in for the attorney and then he has all the info on how y'all institute the sight, etc in one identify. Could save you money in legal fees. The phone numbers, names and website addresses are often key to proving the fraud. If you demand whatsoever legwork done on names, phone numbers, websites and email addresses used during this whole fiasco, just PM information technology to me and I will get what information I can for you on them. Particularly the faux referral website and ph number that referred you. There are many but we endeavour to keep upwards-to-date on who owns then, equally they oftentimes modify them to individual registration after they detect out people are putting ii+2 together and figuring out the connection.

Frequently a 10 day letter  from an chaser threatening to file a lawsuit helps get real negotiations going afterward emails and calls made have failed.

Please keep us updated hither. Even if you get your coin, which I promise yous practise, and they don't want you speaking up about it, delight attempt to let u.s.a. or one of us know that you are settling before information technology gos through so we can update the thread and not put yous in a position where you could violate a settlement agreement. A quick PM notifying united states of america as the papers are set up to exist signed and coin deposited actually helps encourage others to persist in fighting for their coin dorsum.

I wish you the best.

I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a former scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long fourth dimension nom de plumage. Feel free to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.


Thank you for the info.  We are waiting to see if they offer usa a refund (nosotros sent them a reqeust for repayment), if non, we will be hiring a lawyer.

The "leaked docs" showing the script they utilize is very helpful - it was most verbatim to what Abby, our Addiction Specialist told us.  She's also who told the states she was in no way affiliated to Narconon....yet two other people at the hotline told me she is an employee of Narconon and afterward I found out that she is married to an Intake Coordinator.....lovely...if nothing else happens, nosotros will exist filing complaints againt her license...

I received a tip virtually a possible Abby who works for Narconon Fresh Starting time who is married to Josh Penn, a registrar for Narconon Fresh Offset facilities like Warner Springs, etc.

Abby Zimmer and Josh Penn
http://www.theknot.com/wedding/Josh-Abby

"How we met

Josh and I met at a wonderful place chosen Narconon Fresh Start. Nosotros are both highly dedicated to this organization because it saved our lives. Nosotros help people everyday to exist freed from drug and booze addiction. Josh has been with Narconon for over 10 years and I have been with them for almost 5.

We owe a lot to this group and we have fabricated true friends that we will keep forever.

There is nada better than helping another and we could intendance less virtually the hours we put in, as long as we are saving lives."
http://world wide web.theknot.com/wedding ceremony/view/5925037207912098/35787728

Y'all probably take to be signed in here to see this photo.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4944706194894&set up=a.1252536932970.31034.1815934569&blazon=3&theater

Simply I will endeavour to post it here

I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a onetime scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long fourth dimension nom de plumage. Feel gratis to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.


That is the one.  I have found her personal cell phone number besides, I have a recording of her voicemail and information technology is the same voice of Abby Zimmer, RAS whom I spoke to at the hotline...  I have a recording of her as well - in instance we ever need to compare....


I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a former scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long time nom de plume. Feel complimentary to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.


Well, of course I have establish this website because our family was scammed by Fresh Outset in Warner Springs. Like others, I was convinced by an "contained" counseling service that Fresh Start would be the best place for my brother-in-law.  five days into the plan (final Friday), we received a telephone call from him that they were trying to brainwash him and making him read 50. Ron Hubbard books and "stare into another guy's eyes for hours." At first we idea he was hallucinating from coming off drugs.  However, we looked into it and were shocked to find out that they are affiliated with Narconon and Scientology!!  We flew out at that place immediately on Sunday and removed him from the facility and placed him in a new, Non-NarCONon facility. Now the fight is on to get our money back.  We contacted a few lawyers who said that our case is too pocket-size (we paid $xxx,000). Narconon's lawyer, Bruce, we have on a recorded phone call with my husband, said we will virtually likely get a refund, but it volition be prorated and could take 2 months.  All the same, nosotros demand the coin ASAP to pay for the other rehab, who are being and so nice and letting united states pay when we go our refund.  I'one thousand starting to go nervous, though, considering we are always directed to Bruce, not the claims department.  Does anyone have any advice on this?  I've seen other posts on refunds, merely they seem to be center specific.  Thanks in advance for the advice.

P.S.  The craziest part is that I grew up and notwithstanding alive near Clearwater, FL... Scientology's headquarters!  Never in my life would I have imagined that I would be scammed past them.

Hello Caityb830, I just came across your posts hither and wanted to say that I promise your family got a refund and that your blood brother-in-law is doing ameliorate. I gather that no news ways the money was refunded. It's typical for Narconon refund agreements and that's OK. I but promise your brother in constabulary is doing better.

For the benefit of anyone that may come across this thread, in that location accept been major changes for people being able to effectively fight back confronting this terrible scam. Since Caityb830's post, at that place accept been nearly 26 lawsuits have been filed against Narconon Fresh Start, owner of Sunshine Elevation Society facility. These legal and other complaints tin can be constitute here:
http://narcononreviews.cyberspace/?s=Fresh+Get-go

The main attorney who is taking these cases is Ryan Hamilton of NV. From what I can tell, he seems still open to taking more than cases! He has a website up called Narconon Lawsuits. For more information, as well as contact details visit  http://www.narcononlawsuits.com/

I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a onetime scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long time nom de plume. Feel free to contact me for aid in righting the wrongs.


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